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Post by YenMaster on Apr 15, 2005 8:49:49 GMT -5
If I were a militaint commie...
If by "Russian Socialists" you mean Nazis, then I would fight against them - but the Nazis are the capitalists and imperialists - and I don't know what you mean by Zionist, as it's such a blanket term, but I would be proud to stand alongside anyone, gentile or not, against the looming shadow of fascism.
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Post by FreedomFries on Apr 15, 2005 8:51:58 GMT -5
I'll just snatch this off of SE.
interrupt_00h wrote: I am from Russia, and Russia suffered much more suffering from Third Reich, than all countries of Europe and North America, packed together.
To deny the (relative) suffering brought upon other nations than the Soviet Union by the nazis against jews(not that you'd mind that), gypsies, homosexuals, socialists, communists, resistance fighters etc., is to deny half the Holocaust. Admittedly, Russian soldiers took the most heavy casualties in the war, but one must also take into account the suffering brought upon the nations because of the crimes against humanity by the Nazis.
Quote: Today, Russian Nationalist organizations also fight against invaders.
That is just a very simplistic stance that can be used as an excuse for the most terrible things:
"A man gave me a scary glance, so I felt the need to defend myself by taking out an assault rifle gunning him down, also wounding passers-by in the process."
"The jews are invading our country, they must all be gassed to preserve our racial purity."
See how quickly that can happen? The "self-defence" excuse can be used to justify the craziest ideas and events.
Quote: Well, as far as I know, there are lots of Skinheads and Neonazis in Europe, am I wrong?
Not really, there are still too many(more than zero), but it's not overwhelming. It's mostly thanks to the fear the media is slowly injecting into the western European people, as if they can be stabbed by dangerous immigrants any time they set a foot outside of their doors, which they use as an excuse to impinge on our civil rights by legislation like I.D. cards being compulsory.
Quote: Now, stop and think.
1. What's bad in racial purity?
That it's a bullshit idea, since interracial mixing should actually be encouraged since it helps increase genetic diversity, which is only more desirable.
Quote: 2. What's bad in anti-immigrationism?
To blindly stand against immigrants no matter what, is ridiculous. The "immigrants do not belong here" is an extremely shitty argument, because that would be like not rescuing someone from a burning house because they shouldn't have been playing around in it in the first place.
Quote: Do you understand that you are arguing against basic, natural, healthy demands?
The only person I see doing that is you.
Quote: Try that, zionist trotskyite pig, and we shall see what you are worth of.
You have already shown that you are ready to side with Zionists, Capitalists and Imperialists - against Russian Socialists. Just because they are "Russian". That's the true face of trotskyism - zionism and jewish supremacism. Stalin was absolutely right about that.
Regardless of opinions about trotskyism, that was a pathetic argument. TIG is in no way advocating russophobia or zionism, let alone jewish supremacism(the door swings both ways, if you advocate your supremacist ideas, don't complain about others doing the same for another group of people, not that TIG was doing that, but think about it anyway). What he is saying is that he will not stand for letting an ideology that is about dividing the proletariat to challenge Russia.
Quote: Heh, true face of one-sided Marxism. Total ignoring of biology, birth/death balance, ethnopolitics...
Once again, the only person I see doing that is you.
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Post by NBP on Apr 15, 2005 8:52:54 GMT -5
There is difference between diversity and chaos. Diversity comes from branching of racial structure (example is break-up of Balto-Slavic gene pool), not from mixing of alien branches. Mixing with alien gene pool, especially less developed one, is not "diversity", it is plain and clear damage. You should read some books on biology.
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Post by Chernobog on Apr 15, 2005 8:54:03 GMT -5
That's exactly the point - "TIG"/FreedomFrise claims that he is "internationalist", but in reality he is jewish supremacist - he is against Russian working class.
Think about it: he prefers Jewish-dominated CAPITALIST Russia to Russian-dominated SOCIALIST Russia.
That means his ideology is more about Jewish supremacism than about Socialism.
So, I attack him for being Jewish supremacism, because "socialism" is only word guys like him use to trick workers into submission to Jews.
Comrades! Don't believe Jews! Building real worker's state is only possible without Jews! Remember: Soviet Union became Socialist only after it purged all Jews out of Communist Party! Before that, there was NEP - the same capitalism as before revolution, just Jewish-dominated!
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Post by PG4 on Apr 15, 2005 8:55:09 GMT -5
That's exactly the point - "TIG"/FreedomFrise claims that he is "internationalist", but in reality he is jewish supremacist - he is against Russian working class. Think about it: he prefers Jewish-dominated CAPITALIST Russia to Russian-dominated SOCIALIST Russia. That means his ideology is more about Jewish supremacism than about Socialism. So, I attack him for being Jewish supremacism, because "socialism" is only word guys like him use to trick workers into submission to Jews. Comrades! Don't believe Jews! Building real worker's state is only possible without Jews! Remember: Soviet Union became Socialist only after it purged all Jews out of Communist Party! Before that, there was NEP - the same capitalism as before revolution, just Jewish-dominated! For Christ's sake, I haven't laughed so hard after reading anything for a long time. I've clearly stated, many times that I don't even beleive in race - let alone think one is better than the other. Your logic is hillariously flawed. Internationalist = Jewish Supremisist = Against Russian working class I'll do one for you now. Nazi = My Little Pony = Against eating salad
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Post by IRP on Apr 15, 2005 8:56:13 GMT -5
First, Russia is today not Jewish dominated, but capitalist dominated. I oppose this. Your "socialist" Russia is only "socialist" in the same way Hitler was a "socialist." Yes, I oppose this as well, because fascsim is an extension of capitalism.
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Post by Chernobog on Apr 15, 2005 8:58:16 GMT -5
For Christ's sake, I haven't laughed so hard after reading anything for a long time. I've clearly stated, many times that I don't even beleive in race - let alone think one is better than the other. Your logic is hillariously flawed. Internationalist = Jewish Supremisist = Against Russian working class I'll do one for you now. Nazi = My Little Pony = Against eating salad Where do you see flawed logic? Nations, just like classes, are natural objective concepts. You promote de-Nationalization (internationalism) of Russia, but you violently oppose attempts to confront Jewish nationalism. You are against Russian nationalism but have no problems against Jewish nationalism. You are Jewish supremacist. And because you are Jewish supremacist, you are against Russians, since Jews are enemy of Russians. To be more exact: JEWISH CAPITALIST dominated. 100% of rich capitalist (oligarchs) are Jews.
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Post by NBP on Apr 15, 2005 8:59:21 GMT -5
You people.
why don't you ask me why dedicated and educated marxist like me slowly turned into anti-marxist?
No, really, I can't believe you are not curious. I am much more educated than you, and I was marxist long time ago, so I can't believe you are not wondering why I rejected false illusions of marxism in the end.
Do you understand, that marxism is LESS INTELLECTUAL ideology, than National-Socialism. It is simply primitive and outdated. Plain speaking, it is FALSE. It ignores physical reality. It is old 19th-century ideology, that wasn't even updated. I bet you didn't even checked proportion of proletarians-farmers-intelligentsia among working class of modern countries.
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Post by Tang Soo Do on Apr 15, 2005 8:59:58 GMT -5
what would the NBP do with jews if tNBP actually were in power?
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Post by KingBehalf on Apr 18, 2005 17:03:19 GMT -5
I hacked into all your accounts (almost all) and just brought in shit from SE!
I am good! ;D
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Post by Roget Rostek on Apr 18, 2005 17:10:36 GMT -5
No, you are vain by telling me this. *locked* *banned*
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Post by HSRosteK on May 12, 2005 17:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by TheRedMenace on May 14, 2005 18:01:39 GMT -5
Let me say something: National-Socialism isn't nazis. True NAZI stands for National-Socialist but Hitler took it 1 step futher. NAtional-Socialist Russia is just 1 more step to red russia.
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Post by Roget Rostek on May 16, 2005 7:55:01 GMT -5
Hitler did take it a few steps too far. But this is not to say that all rebel groups in Russia are not Hitlerites. What about the PKII or RNU?
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Post by FreedomFries on May 16, 2005 7:59:13 GMT -5
Then explain this:
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