CRAB
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Post by CRAB on Apr 15, 2005 8:26:17 GMT -5
I 100% agree with you there, Chernobog, but you are becoming far more radical than usual.
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NBP
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Post by NBP on Apr 15, 2005 8:27:08 GMT -5
That's because occupational regime is getting MORE AND MORE RADICAL in exterminating Russians.
Pure socialist or pure patriotist sort of solution could work in 2002, 2003 or even 2004.
However, today, it is impossible.
Putin signed several extreme laws - among of which, cancelling all healthcare (aside of abortions) and education, and legalization of illegal migration.
I am pleased to announce, that that is over the top. Such actions can be confronted only in radical way.
You can call me "Russian Nazi" if you want, that's OK. Nothing wrong in being Russian Nazi.
I want Russians and Russia to survive, and if Ultranationalism is the only way - so be it.
Is it Nazism? Okay, I have no problems. All hail to Russian Nazism!
We have chance to survive, chance to be rulers in our own country once again.
That is something that is more important that some sort of dead-born ideological illusions.
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Post by Klingon on Apr 15, 2005 8:28:25 GMT -5
Why is this in bold? And claiming to know more about Marxism than he ever will is a pretty ignorant thing to say; there is always now, there will always be later, and knowledge will always be relative.
I think 'stupid' is as close as it gets to my prejudices against national socialists. You generalize jews, I generalize nazis. I don't see how being a newbie tells anything about anyone's acknowledgability on any field, and on the other side, how being here longer than any person tells anything about -your- acknowledgability.
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umar
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Post by umar on Apr 15, 2005 8:30:01 GMT -5
Dammit, I don't know why, but this makes me sad. I like you, NBP and Chernobog, for your knowledge in military matters. I think I read all your posts in the red army forum. They always were intersting.
The problem is your current "worldview" as you say. Let me explain: most of the forum members come from North America and West Europe. Especially Europe suffered a lot under national socialist regime. I think that lot of the members remember the stories their grandparents told them. It is in our logic to reject national socialsim, it is natural, it simply was part of our education (if we had one). Please don't call that propaganda.
Chernobog, I think the time will come when you can talk about national socialism but it is not now. WW2 was 60 years ago and many wounds arent healt yet.
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Post by Klaxon on Apr 15, 2005 8:30:52 GMT -5
You have constantly labelled yourself a national socialist, also known as nazi, so I really don't see why you're contesting it when it's being used against you. Being the biggest ideologue on the forum is nice, but that isn't necessarily a good thing.
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Animagus
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Post by Animagus on Apr 15, 2005 8:32:27 GMT -5
This stuff is so Nazi and fascist, I can't even open up one of these threads for fear of someone in the lab looking over at me and thinking I'm some kind of Hiterlite racist screwball.
I will oppose this movement, should it come to fruition, with every ounce of strength in my body and every last drop of blood.
The world is done with this trash: The Human Genome Project has proven that race lines are all myths Nationalism is a tool to divide the world's working class
You are following the exact same path of fascist Germany and Italy. After they take power they would become a bonapartist regime and any mask they may have worn for being for the people will have been taken off. They would have already been a battering ram to destroy the laborors of the nation - and hiding behind the army and the police, the people would have no chance but to rise up and take you Hitlerites down.
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Post by Chernobog on Apr 15, 2005 8:34:14 GMT -5
I am from Russia, and Russia suffered much more suffering from Third Reich, than all countries of Europe and North America, packed together.
However, that doesn't mean I need to oppose National-Socialism.
In WW2, Russians fought against invaders.
Today, Russian Nationalist organizations also fight against invaders.
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Post by Hokker on Apr 15, 2005 8:35:14 GMT -5
Now, stop and think.
1. What's bad in racial purity?
2. What's bad in anti-immigrationism?
Do you understand that you are arguing against basic, natural, healthy demands?
Immigrants do not belong there - so, they should not be allowed to move here.
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Post by Kam on Apr 15, 2005 8:36:20 GMT -5
Now, stop and think. 1. What's bad in racial purity? 2. What's bad in anti-immigrationism? Do you understand that you are arguing against basic, natural, healthy demands? Immigrants do not belong there - so, they should not be allowed to move here. This stuff is so nazi and fascist.
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NBP
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Post by NBP on Apr 15, 2005 8:37:01 GMT -5
This stuff is so nazi and fascist. "Nazi" and "fascist" are different things. Nazi is "extreme nationalism", while fascist is "extreme patriotism". In fascist state, COUNTRY is primary, while in Nazi state, NATION is primary.
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Post by Boris on Apr 15, 2005 8:37:47 GMT -5
COUNTRY vs. NATION
WTF is the difference!!
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Post by Chernobog on Apr 15, 2005 8:39:44 GMT -5
And what if your opinion was this:
"I will oppose this movement, should it come to fruition, with every ounce of strength in my body and every last drop of blood. "
Try that, zionist trotskyite pig, and we shall see what you are worth of.
You have already shown that you are ready to side with Zionists, Capitalists and Imperialists - against Russian Socialists. Just because they are "Russian". That's the true face of trotskyism - zionism and jewish supremacism. Stalin was absolutely right about that.
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NBP
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Post by NBP on Apr 15, 2005 8:40:59 GMT -5
Fascist Germany and Italy were expansionist due to their ethnodemographic balance.
Today, balance is opposite, so any form of Nazism is ISOLATIONIST and ANTI-GLOBALIST.
So, no sort of expansionist war is possible.
Heh, true face of one-sided Marxism. Total ignoring of biology, birth/death balance, ethnopolitics...
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Park Il Sung
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Post by Park Il Sung on Apr 15, 2005 8:42:05 GMT -5
I know that, regarding history of the "Ostfront", I am pretty good informend, you know. Honestly, don't you fear that the same could happen to Europe when Russia goes that way you keep on describing? Because I fear that. Perhaps you will be disappointed too... by 2008.
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Post by PG4 on Apr 15, 2005 8:48:14 GMT -5
And what if your opinion was this: "I will oppose this movement, should it come to fruition, with every ounce of strength in my body and every last drop of blood. " Try that, zionist trotskyite pig, and we shall see what you are worth of. You have already shown that you are ready to side with Zionists, Capitalists and Imperialists - against Russian Socialists. Just because they are "Russian". That's the true face of trotskyism - zionism and jewish supremacism. Stalin was absolutely right about that. Well that is my opinion! If I were to die doing this, I'd be in the brotherhood of the Bolsheviks fighting Kornilov; Nin and the other POUM, the Spartikans, and the thousands Russians who died fighting this same hateful ideology of petite-bourgeois reaction.
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