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renwan
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:28 am Quote | | Top | |

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does anyone know how can non-russian citizens enroll in the russian army and if that is possible, can anyone tell me the requirment(age,school diplomas and shit....) to join the russian army.

air force or Ground, Never the Water one after that submarine that scares me as hell.

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:50 am Quote | | Top | |

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Why the hell would you want to join the Russian army?


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well u wanna start a revolution dont u? so without the army support u wont do it, so just to sprech the communist word around.
To learn how to combat, i cant really explain it is just a feeling, but what will happen if a war comes on better to know what to do rather than just get a gun and start shoting, strategy, ice heart and mind....

i want help not criticism,thanx

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Theoretically, Russian army accepts non-Russian citizens, but there is a problem...

What will you do in Russian army?

Do you think they will give you ability to fight?

Here's what will happen: for two weeks or so, you will receive basic arms training.

Then, for two years, you will serve as cheap labor force: cleaning toilets, building Dachas (villas) for Russian elite.

Bad stuff is that there will always be lack of food and other stuff. Basicly, in Russia, homeless dog, which is put to isolation, receives more money, than soldiers.

Also, don't forget dedovshina: older soldiers will beat you and order you to do things for them: cleaning toilets, washing their clothes, sucking their dicks, and stuff like that.

You will not learn to shoot in modern Russian capitalist army. You will learn to build Dachas and to suck dicks properly.

The only exception is small elite divisions, mostly police-related, but you have zero chances of getting there.

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:48 pm Quote | | Top | |

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o chance to get in an elite division, are you sure?
i think i have my chances, not much but i can try.

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:03 pm Quote | | Top | |

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renwan wrote:
o chance to get in an elite division, are you sure?
i think i have my chances, not much but i can try.


Well, if you serve for 10 years in ordinary army (doing stuff like building dachas and sucking dicks), than maybe you have some chances...

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:05 pm Quote | | Top | |

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Anyway, I will try to contact my friends, maybe I can use my connections...

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renwan
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:20 pm Quote | | Top | |

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thanx i appreciate it but my plans are to enroll in 2-3 years, i cant before but i still appreciating ur help

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So you want to be a soldier of the revolution? If so, I would highly recommend you start reading some writings by one of my favorites, Ernesto Guevara. Read everything you can of his, there's not all that much of it compared to others.

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I recommend this - marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1937/guerrilla-warfare/index.htm

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:46 pm Quote | | Top | |

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Thanx Nair al Saif and and SciHobo, btw i can read Ché in the original language so its even better

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this is bad i came here... im 17 years old and being deported from canada(back to Russia) and ummm... my draft will be next year.
and i dont feel like serving 3 years in some shit chechnia! no way in hell!!! and about the revolution... everyone in the Russian army is commie. cuz when Russia will reveal its true form(communism) thats when the soldats will get 3 meals a day and no corruption! thats when i'll go and join.



but i have my Q's to...

i speak Russian,English,Francais and Jap ... is there anyway i can join..lets say... kgb? or serve somewhere near that category? i only have an acent when i speak Russian but a mild one(hard to recognize)

i think i will be of more use to them with my speaking ability then my combat ... and heck im a psycho! good knows what ill do... get bullied and then shot the mother fuckers! and shot the general and assume his command...

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:27 pm Quote | | Top | |

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with this murder attitude sure u can join the KGB but they will send you to some suicide mission because they see how crazy you are and that you cant control yourself
ask Chernobog is he the one with friends in that stuff.

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From what I am aware of, ytou don't just join the KGB. Using the British system as a model - people in MI6 and MI5 are recruited among Oxford and Cambridge graduates, not any random person, without higher education. So I wouldn't think you can join the FSB (the new name for the KGB), especially at this age.

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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:47 am Quote | | Top | |

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Dont join the russian army renwan, theyre not a communist government anymore.

Your better off looking into whether you can join the Cuban army instead. Its a good army, and your spanish so the language shouldnt be a problem.

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Chernobog-13M wrote:
Theoretically, Russian army accepts non-Russian citizens, but there is a problem...

What will you do in Russian army?

Do you think they will give you ability to fight?

Here's what will happen: for two weeks or so, you will receive basic arms training.

Then, for two years, you will serve as cheap labor force: cleaning toilets, building Dachas (villas) for Russian elite.

Bad stuff is that there will always be lack of food and other stuff. Basicly, in Russia, homeless dog, which is put to isolation, receives more money, than soldiers.

Also, don't forget dedovshina: older soldiers will beat you and order you to do things for them: cleaning toilets, washing their clothes, sucking their dicks, and stuff like that.

You will not learn to shoot in modern Russian capitalist army. You will learn to build Dachas and to suck dicks properly.

The only exception is small elite divisions, mostly police-related, but you have zero chances of getting there.


Did this go on in the Soviet Army too?

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that kind of stuff did happen, but I reckon less in the Soviet than in the contemporary army of Russia.

But a communist government should not allow for such behaviour. Communists soldiers should be formed into warrior philosophers, who abide by communist principles. The strong help the weak, and in turn reap the honour of being heroes!

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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:48 pm Quote | | Top | |

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i still want to join, i want to perfect my russian and train in cold conditions(i have trained in Spain in the Mountains of Aragon but is like -1¨¬ C)so i want to train under extrem condtions, btw i shoot pretty well and since i was a kid my dad and grandfather trained me with scope rifles so i shoot pretty well.

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Why exactly the Russian army? There are other armies today that would probably offer better training and you won't have to build toilets, while you can also train in cold conditions...

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Why would you want to join the army of an imperialist-capitalist country?

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like where? China? i dont speak Chinese and im not about to go there..
Cuba? i speak spanish but too warm

so where else?

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Don't join any capitalist or state-capitalist army, and instead help to build a revolutionary movement within your own country. That is the task of Communists at this moment.

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:31 am Quote | | Top | |

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sure in my country the Communist party doesent have even 1 seat in the parliament basically because they give bad ideals about it, so i might found my own party because the ones we have here in Spain just dont know wut they r doing and they r just retards.

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Yeah in Luxemburg it is the same situation... the KPL will be disolved soon... but we still have "Dei nei Lenk" it's acommunist party too, but it's not Stalinist, I'll vote for them. They currently have a seat in the parlament...

Concerning the russian army... I think that joining this army at the moment is not that good idea. If I only see the troops in Chechnya I get depressed! They don't even get new uniforms... they wear "Nike" caps!!!!! That's not funny anymore... and the moral is very low... this explains the cruelty of this conflict...

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:00 am Quote | | Top | |

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in my point of view russians should get their ass out of chechenya, chechenya for the chechenyans not for the russians, thats my point of view^^

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:08 am Quote | | Top | |

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Why would you want to join the army of an imperialist-capitalist country?


I was just talking about his wishes, not considering he wanted to join a socialist nation's army. And wouldn't it be better to try and get the soldiers of a capitalist nation educated about communism than doing it to members of a socialist army. This would surely do more for the communist movement, as you say in another post.

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:59 am Quote | | Top | |

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hey the russian army is from a capitalist country so for this i wanna join there, to eduacate them^^

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Nah, I think you will find out most soldiers in the Russian Army do not share their government's views, as someones said earlier in this topic.

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the next revolucion will come through guerilla warfare

Bush is going to restore the draft and so i better get off to Canada

Most ppl in amerika dont even know about CPUSA or the american socialist party


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:32 am Quote | | Top | |

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i still inviting everyone to make a revolution in Spain, we need people and guns, cheap guns hehe but we still can pay expensive guns dont worry so anyone who can help, his or her help is appreciated

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Youre better off just taking up the hobby of paintball with some friends. Go on a camping/paintballing trip to the mountains. Paintballs a really cool game, I should try do it more often but it can be a bit expensive.

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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:39 am Quote | | Top | |

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hey i played paintball, i know how to use guns, i know how to move in the landscape of Spain, i speak different languages hehe im perfect for work in a guerrilla here but here the people is kinda lazy they dont wanna move their ass....

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hey i played paintball, i know how to use guns, i know how to move in the landscape of Spain, i speak different languages hehe im perfect for work in a guerrilla here but here the people is kinda lazy they dont wanna move their ass.... and we have enough money to pay every kinda weapon that anyone wanna sell.

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I'm a conscript in the Finnish Army, going into paratroop training soon, once I have finished regular Jaeger training. Finland has a whole bunch of Soviet military hardware the Soviets sold to us through the Mutual Co-assistance Pact.

If you reall want to help, join FARC in Colombia or some other revolutionary movement, Cuba has alot of military force already, why not fight to spread Communism than just fight to protect a socialist country which many others are doing?

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might i suggest banning al BEHALF's?

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might i suggest not necroposting?

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nanana besides being old, idiotic and among my posts in my ignorance era is necropsoting thats why its *locked*